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Making Photos with the Leica M8

Fri Sep 28, 2007, 12:11 AM
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Originally published on my blog ... but I wanted to put it here as well...

Yeah, I know:  Another nail in the future coffin of film; I like the Leica M8.

And even though this is meant for the people on Uber.com and deviantART.com I know that it’ll make it’s way to the fondler-sites.  Seriously, if you’re one of the fondlers and you don’t like what I say, I don’t friggin’ care.  Trust me on that.  You can comment.  You can try and email … I don’t care.  You can have your fondler-audience; I prefer an audience of people who can make photos.  Owning and fondling gear doesn’t mean for a hot second you can do anything with it.

Back to the M8 … I’d be remiss if I didn’t say I feel bad for liking it.

All of that said … I got the Em-Eight ‘round the second week of May … Since that time I shot two rolls of film in the Em-Pee.  In fact, the only time I’ve been to my beloved lab – yeah, I’m a pussy because I don’t process my own film and prints – was to approve some fibre prints.  When I went to pick up said prints J says to me, “Why’s there a ‘For Lease’ sign up?”

The home of my US$10 per roll processing, scanning and contact sheet service … it’s gone.  Sold off.  Merged.  Not what it was.  It’s right across the street now; next door to the old building which was WireImage which is now part of the “Death Star.” ;)

Old prices are gone.

Yes, it made me sad.  Ah … film.

Seriously, every time I picked up the M8 to make a photo … I thought of my friend and fellow film snob, Sev in Austria.  I think of other people as well but for whatever reason … Sev comes to mind when I think about film shooters.  I almost felt like I was betraying my film snobbery.  My film-snob-friends.  Myself?

Do not take it that I’ve abandoned the tonality which is only film.  Oh, sure, yeah, I know … there are those who populate deviantART and Flickr and all of the other sites and after adequate massaging … they can make it look almost like film.  I know.

There’s just a bit of old-school left in me:  Get the fucking image right … IN FUCKING CAMERA.  

Film forces you to do that.

But digital lets you experiment more.  I think.  

In my world … a photo is dead once it’s made.  It has to be adjusted in PhotoShop for slight colour balance correction, a bit of contrast, a bit of unsharp mask (because I don’t like a camera doing that for me), a slight crop and a resize.  Save at 8 or 10.  Caption.  Transmit.

See … you may have PRO after your name on Flickr … but … to be a real pro means a lot of things.  First off, in terms of insurance and shit … a professional photographer means you make more than 80% of your income from photography.  At it’s very base that’s what it means.   There are “pro photographers” on “any boulevard” hawking horrible product.  “P” on your fucking camera doesn’t fucking stand for “Professional.”  Pro doesn’t mean you have PRO after your name on Flickr.  Trust me.

In the context of how I’m a professional photographer, yes, I meet the insurance requirement for saying I’m a “professional photographer.”  Additionally, I’m hired to go to ultra-exclusive places so that I’m the eyes for the world.  Honestly, sometimes when I’ve put my MP up to my eye with my amazing fast-ass glass I’ve thought, “fuck … that was cool … but … it’s irrelevant.”

Irrelevant?

Fucking, eh.  Because if it was made with digital there’s a chance that “cool photo” would have been seen by millions and gotten my client or clients more publicity but since it was film … it would wait 72 hours.  In today’s world 72 hours is death for a photo which I make in a professional context.

If it’s an editorial gig with a couple week lead time, no worries.  But … if I’m on a magazine closing deadline, anything shot with film is irrelevant.

Irrelevancy sucks.  Ask a “reality star” six months after their last t.v. show aired what the fuck irrelevancy fucking feels like.

Not good I suspect.

And here comes a tool … which accepts my gorgeous fast Leica-M glass.  Admittedly, when I first got to “test” one it was at the end of 2006 for a couple weeks.  I know some of the fuckers who charge for their opinion on gear, which I don’t really get, had it for longer and I think that made me a bit bitter.

I’m a fucking shooter.

My blog and my opinions are adjuncts.  I make money by being a photographer.  Perhaps one day I’ll make money from my blogs … but that’ll be paid content … from some corporation … not from sub-fucking-scribers.

Perhaps I don’t give a fuck if “fondlers” like me.

Perhaps.

But … I couldn’t get over the crop-factor or that magenta bullshit.  

The camera which was FEDEX’d to me in mid-May, though … replete with the newest firmware … and some IR-Cut filters …

I love it.

I’ve made 40gb of imagery with it in these few months.  And … just so the fucking fondlers know … you don’t have to shoot it RAW to make an outstanding image.  I’ve seen you guys who only shoot in RAW … I’ve seen your original files … fucking blown the fuck out by 3 stops … or under … by a few …

Yep, save it with Capture One.  You’re a pro.

Or at least you have PRO after your name on Flickr. ;)

If shot the same way you’d shoot chrome – if you don’t know what that is, you can stop reading – and you’re within a third of a stop of being perfect, the files produced with the M8 are fucking killer.

Not even … but … I’ve found that when you know how you shoot and how the M8 shoots … Aperture Priority is pretty damn good.  Like … I like it.

“But I thought you hated the crop factor?”

Well … I prefer to shoot full-frame cameras like my 1Ds’s and 5D’s … I’m over 1D mark 2’s and 3’s.  Why?  Because I can be.

But … with the M8 … I can use my exceptional Leica glass.  Isn’t that what photography is all about?  The glass?  And … I’ve learned to love the Leica M 28/2.0 Sumicron.  Even with a bit of flash from the SF24-D, an IR-Cut filter and some light massaging in Photoshop … I get some nice material.

Relevant material.

Material which has been published in newspapers, weeklies and monthlies both here in the You-ess-of-ay and all over the world.



The Jenny McCarthy photo I lead off with was the first “event” I was hired to cover where the M8 came ‘long.  I love shooting her.  She loves making photos.  

*picks up M8 and makes the ubiquitous airport photo whilst writing this in line for an airplane*

I love making photos with people who like making photos.



I mean … I still shoot the M6 TTL and MP and M3 when the “lead time” for publication isn’t an hour from now.  But … now … I can put a Leica in my digital work flow.  The photos are relevant.  And … I can make money from the photos!  I’m not saying I don’t make money with my other Leicas … it’s just in a different context.

I can make atmosphere photos …



And moments between cast members of televisions shows …



Right along side my Canons.  I view the M8 as an accoutrement to my Canons.  And like the MP and the M6 TTL and the M3 for that matter … it goes largely unobserved …

At a party.  On the street.  Or in my living room.



And I don’t have to have my face hidden by some ginormous D-SLR …

To make a photo of my little B.



Or the random guy sucking on a death stick.  I say that because I’m jealous … and still bitter about not being able to smoke.



I kinda think the M8, since I got it ‘round the time I quit supporting American tobacco companies, may have helped in helping me stop smoking.  Dunno how … but it feels that way.

Odd.  Because right in the middle of shooting a photo of my lovely C and my even lovelier B … and the random fucker having a smoke break after making me a kabab … I’ll shoot for Spanish Vogue …



And the next night on a walk for gelato in the best neighborhood in Los Angeles I see the creepy fucking mannequin …



Or in the most French-like café we have ‘round our ‘hood …



‘cause … I prefer to do those types of photographs with a rangefinder … and now … I can do them with a digital rangefinder – THE digital rangefinder, if you will.



There’s that connection with your subject in terms of portraits and in terms of street photography there’s that non-connection we all crave as well.  Small footprint.  It either doesn’t hide my face or doesn’t draw attention to itself.

I’m still shocked that I was able to use it along side my ginormous Canon D-SLR’s … and it was a nice compliment.  I used it as my “ambient body” … all the while getting shit from people, “you have three cameras?”

“There’s one more in the car:  Shall I go grab that as well, love?”

I’m an asshole. It’s all good.

If you click this, you’ll see the photos I shot in an assignment-context … the M8 got a great workout.  I didn’t expect it to work as well as it did.  I mean … I’m not used to putting any kind of filter on a Leica M lens in that … there’s really no need for it.  In the context of my Canon D-SLR’s … yes … there are several reasons.  Drunk people.  The random knocking into an hors d’oevre trays. Other equipment knocking into it.  And … I really don’t want to kill an expensive piece of Canon L-series glass.  Screw that.

But … with the M8 in order for it to make suitable files … especially ones in colour … and ones in colour which have some aspect of the frame which is black … one needs to have an IR cut filter.  Depending upon the colour temperature where the photo was made I found that I’d have to tweak the files in PhotoShop CS3 to remove some odd green tint.  No matter if it was tungsten, HMI (daylight balanced artificial light) or even daylight.  ‘twas very odd.

But … like my Canons … no digital camera is perfect.  I’ve had odd error messages on the Canons; I’ve had the M8 just blink the “writing file status light” with no other cure but to pull the battery.

Like today’s Blackberry PDA’s … it’s just another … hard reset.  Whatever.  

Not every camera can be the Leica MP. ;)

Then again, I really don’t want every camera to be the MP.  I mean … in today’s world … and especially the world I shoot 80% of my work … time is of the essence … a late image is a dead image … and now … I can see my assignment world through framelines …

And the rest of the world can see what I saw … transmitted as quickly as what I saw with my Canons.

They were like friends.

They are like friends.

And it’s like one of my friends.  ‘cause … I love shooting the thing.  Flaws and all.  Not that there are many flaws.  And … unless you’re a fondler who can’t get it right “in camera” the first time … there’s really no reason to have to shoot in RAW mode.  I’m an Apple Aperture user so that stupid DNG file format kinda sucks for me anyway. ;)

Anyone who knows me and my views … knows that I adore the practice of street photography … and seriously … the M8 did very very very well …





Two solitary dudes.  Two solitary worlds.  Uninterrupted by my little camera and my soft click.  A “soft click” which still isn’t a hard kah-clank like that of an SLR.  Still isn’t the whisper of the MP … but … what the hell are you going to do?  Use a piece of crap like the Epson?

Wait for Zeiss to make a camera I don’t think they’ll ever make?

No.  Now … I can use my exceptional Leica glass … and see the results immediately.  And submit those images to magazines, which practically only care about timeliness and relevancy.  The M8 makes the Leica M format of photography relevant even in my assignment-based workflow.  

And … having sent back the demo – which I had for months and having shot 30GB+ of imagery – I’m missing it.  Sure, I shot with the MP today and the 35 is a 35 and the 50’s a 50 … but … perhaps even I … an admitted film snob … am loving the M8.

I shot the M8 in every single imaginable photographic circumstance I could throw at it.  I threw it into the mix when I did some editorial work for a client with actor Cole Hauser …





It’s so nice to be intimate with your subject.  No huge body in front of your face.  Because shooting people is all about the photographer’s interaction with the subject.  No matter who they are.

I also found that shooting it straight at a backlit background with a face in the foreground … manually metering, of course, the M8 did very well …





Amy Smart and Stacy Keibler are incredible to work with … they know how to look at a camera.  ‘tis a nice thing.

And not to compare the girls to another girl … but … Lola knows how to as well.



Lola thought I had a treat, though. ;)

I love the native b/w mode.  No, it’s not film.  Nothing will ever be film.  Only film will be film.  Digital can come close, but it’s not “there” in the context of “where” film is.  And … it’s not that one is better than the other.  They’re different.  

Honestly, in the end … isn’t it about “making the photograph”?  I think it is.

True … I think the M8’s sensor lacks a bit of ability to render contrast to the level I’m used to with film … but … just a little tweaking in either Photoshop CS3 or Aperture … and you can produce beautiful photographs.  That said … getting it right “in camera” is way better than coming semi-close and tweaking the fuck out of it in PhotoShop.  A PhotoShop jockey is not a photographer.

I never tried HDR with the M8.  Perhaps when my own body arrives?

Perhaps not.

I did some landscape-esque photos, though.



A place we affectionately call “the Death Star.” ;)



Whatever … I liked it. ;)



My little friend, Rumer Willis, and fellow photographer added some nice scale-quote-unquote to a nice afternoon in Malibu.  What you’re not seeing is frame right like 35 fucking paps.  “Paps” is common parlance for paparazzi.  Plural.

Rumer prefers her ‘blad … and Polaroids …



But she very much liked using the M8 when we hung out in Malibu a couple times.  She liked to shoot really high ISO’s in daylight in colour.  Looked interesting.

And so does the local coin-operated car wash at 02.30…



Whilst on the topic of “darkness,” per se … I like shadow-play … especially a toast between friends…



Or … a detail of the street we all walked back on the way home …



I found that the M8 did everything I expect from an M body … with beautiful M glass affixed.  Sure, it felt like 3 fps.  About there, at least.  No … it’s not like the Mark 2 Canon’s I shoot nor the 5D.  Okay, more like the 5D, speedwise.  Unless you’re shooting hardcore sports and justifiably “need the speed,” you should be able to “nail it” at the fps of the M8.  I mean … 10 fps is ridiculous.  Then again, I’m not shooting Formula 1.

Just people.

Just the street.

Just the occasional non-HDR landscape.

Very well-suited for those photographic endeavors indeed.  

It shoots Miss Hilton very well indeed as well.  Keep your anti-Paris comments to your friggin’ self.  If you don’t know her personally, you can take the views in the media generated by fat, insecure and jealous female reporters and shove them up your media-infested ass. ;)



We’re always happy to see each other … which seems like every night.  But it’s not.  She’s in Rowanda doing humanitarian work right now.  Good for her.  



Even though the location was lit with pink or reddish LED panels, we had a nice ARRI tungsten with a pretty damn big softbox … even in mixed light … and with a little tweaking in levels … the M8 produced a nice file.



And … I love just experimenting.  Making mistakes.  Achieving an interesting result I would have never thought of before unless I made a certain exposure.  The M8 marries well to the SF24D flash.  That said … I hardly used it … I prefer it as an ambient-only body…

When her sis, Nicky, and her boyfriend, David, had a nice private moment on the VIP stage …



No way I could have raised up a big-ass SLR to my eye … they’re both rather shy.  Having already known my metering inside the club during different lighting scenarios … I made the photo in less than 2 seconds.  Metered.  Focused.  Bam.

And I got to move the image for syndication as well.  Something my MP is kinda lacking.  It doesn’t lack anything other than that.  

DJ A.M. bought an M8 for someone but I can’t say whom.  Unlike others in my business I don’t “give items.”



Becki – as in Newton – and I spoke Italian together … while shooting in Malibu this summer …



Nino – as in Munoz – a VERY successful photographer … shoots with an M6 as well … and LOVED playing with the M8 … I love simple portraits … and I think this one brings out the kind soul which inhabits his body…



For having such fucked up available light which most clubs have … I let the M8 decide the white balance …



The M8 did swimmingly.  Not quite at the level of my Canons … but … all-in-all … very nice.  DJ Vice is amazing, fyi.

My friend Carlos is an artist as well.  In fact, back about four years ago he did one of the wildest fashion shows during fashion week for his line, KlozHorse, that’d ever seen.  He did a show last month called, “For the Love of Honey,” hence the bears. ;)



One of my favourite people.  Wish I could relate his entire story but … I can’t.  Amazing.

And besides my daughter … my other amazing subject … who’s leg I’m resting my own whilst writing this on the sofa … J …



I’m sure J was texting me whilst shooting on the carpet …



She and I were texting while I was sitting in on the GIFT (Getty Images Field Transmission) program training in July.  I got the gist in about the first half hour … of the four we were required to be there … So … I was bored and made photos …



WireImage founders.  Editors.  Contributors.  Staffers.  They’re all there.

And they didn’t catch me with the sneaky M8.

Did I happen to say that I enjoyed making street photographs with the M8?  Interestingly, when I first got this particular body I didn’t like the fact my 35/1.4 Summilux was cropped and made into some mid-forties bastardization of my favourite glass.  So … I was using the 28/2.0 Summicron, which was “about” the same focal length as my go-to glass…





As much as I enjoyed having “essentially” the same focal length as my go-to glass, there was some je nes sais pas missing from the 28 Summi.  It lacked the “pop” and the bokeh I was used to.  Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed the lens a lot … it just “wasn’t the same” which I was used to shooting.



It came close.  But like in many of the situations I regularly shoot … there isn’t much light … and I rely on that extra stop.  I love 1.4.  I love 1.4 at 400.  So … with the 28 Summi … only being at two-oh and at ISO 320 … it just wasn’t the same.  I was still able to make the photo I wanted to make, though.



That woman’s little taco stand … won a James Beard Award for Culinary Excellence.  Just so you know.  And … ‘cause I was shootin’ an M … I went unnoticed.

Except in the case of the poor fuckin’ dog “getting a trim” as it were …



Or a poor fuckin’ dog … with a permanent red ring around it’s eye …



Where’s the cat photo you ask?  Probably in some gallery noted as “Pro” on flickr.  Not my one, mind you.

I know.  I know.  I shouldn’t hate.  I don’t.  I just think that photo communities have really been “dumbed down” lately.

What else did I shoot regularly with the M8.  People.  Events.  Street.  Some landscape.  Oh, yeah, live performances.  Dunno why … when I shoot these … I shoot my Leicas with B&W film.  I shoot the colour with my Canons.  This held true whilst shooting with the M8 as well…



Even with the IR-Cut filter … the Leica glass held up well with all that crazy-ass lighting the lighting designers just love to throw at the still and video guys.  

The M8 also produced photos which I – it seems like, at least – could only produce with a Leica M body in my hands…



Those shots were of “The Bravery,” just so you know.  That lead singer guy’s a bit full of himself.  FYI.

Shot the M8 whilst shooting for Vanessa Carlton’s label as well …



From afar …

And …



Very near.

She performed everything I asked of her.

What would I change?  Not much.  I mean … that whole “if you don’t use the IR-cut filter and shoot colour you get magenta blacks” sure … but … what are you gonna do?  That’s the way it is … and I want to use my Leica glass in my ambient light photography workflow … and … have said work relevant in the context of being published.  I worked ‘round it.  

I also have two wishes:  1)  Leica should do a tweaked B&W-only body and pump an extra 2 or 3 megapixels out of it because it wouldn’t ever shoot in a colour-mode.  2)  Leica needs a Summilux 28/1.4.  I’ll bet they’d have buyers.

Other than that … seriously … I love love love the M8.  It’s not a film body.  I’m not going to get into the film vs. digital debate.  Film … yes … I love film.  I cut my photographic teeth on film.  I enjoyed the aroma of souping my film.  But … sadly … when deadlines are close-close-close … I can now shoot a Leica and my work can be relevant.

It won’t take 72 hours for the processing and scanning.  Sure, I can pay the 300% RUSH fee and pretty much have it only a few hours after I exposed it … but … it’s cost-prohibitive.

I can have the work I love made with the system I love making it …

And I can have it as soon as I put the little card in the reader.

And … because I’m trusted to make the photos “so that everyone else can see” … I can also add what I saw in a Leica-sorta-way … made with glass I adore.  Yes, adore.

‘twas funny … I was talking to Kanye West the other night … and I told him I hadn’t shot him with a Leica and ever since I saw it was him, “…the only shot I want tonight is of you with this.”  He smiled.  I made eye contact and got close and he “let the real intense Kanye” come out…

Just the way I like it.



I want to give a couple shout-outs, too.  First, thanks for the help Mr. Gandy!  Secondly, thanks Jason and Christian from Leica for all of the support.  You guys rock.

Equipment used to make the photos in this whatever-the-hell it is:  Leica M8, 16-18-24/4.0 Tri-Elmar, 35/1.4 Summilux, 28/2.0 Summicron, 75/2.0 Summicron, 50/1.0 Noctilux, 90/2.8 Tele-Elmar, Leica IR-Cut filters, Heliopan 3 stop ND filters, Leica SF24D flash (even with off-camera Canon cable) .… and Sandisk Ultra II 2GB SD flash cards.

forgot something ... there's a pretty amazing article in the new yorker about leica...

UPDATE:  so ... it was pointed out to me that i really didn't talk about iso's and the m8.  just so you know ... i rarely go over 800 with any of my canons.  i don't think any sensor out there at iso 800+ which is acceptable for submission to magazines.  my opinion.

and when i thought about the m8 i didn't really think of it as digital; i thought about it as a leica.  dunno why.  but ... i'll say this ... 160 ... 320 ... fucking gorgeous ... b/w and colour ... 640 ... you have to have enough light ... for a colour file.  if you're under, pushing it even slightly in PS CS and the file fucking fell apart.  at iso 640 in b/w mode it's about the same ... just less so.  at 1250 ... it was alright in b/w mode.  it didn't really meet my expectations in colour at that high iso setting.  then again, i rarely shoot that high of an iso.

i prefer film for that.

here's a b/w shot at iso 640 in a club ...



not bad.  really.  since i routinely push delta 400 to 800 in my leica mp.

here's a colour shot ... at iso 640 ... yes ... in a club ... go figure ...



that was tungsten balanced ... there's always crazy light in there.  she's billed as the "world's sexiest dj."  no comment.

so ... really ... what i'd love to see is 100 or 80 iso from leica.  it would be nice if -- in the future, of course -- they worked on the higher stuff as well.  for me, though, the all of the iso's, if used properly, look pretty damn good.

go ahead .. say, "well you should shoot it in RAW mode."  no, it's cool ... i don't need RAW to save a fucked up file ... i'll get it right "in camera," like a man. ;)

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:iconyour-so-hardcore:
~your-so-hardcore Jan 12, 2008   Traditional Artist
I love that picture of Britney so much.
I've thought about it tons of times since the day you posted this journal.
My dad blocked deviant so I couldn't comment but he unblocked so-yeah.
She looks nice.
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:iconsimba:
2 seconds and BAM!

No tongue wagging ... you're the classiest mofo in the business that I know mate.

Hug B and C for me. Love the shots. Oh, and the death star is cool too. ;)
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:iconrobert:
Thank you : )

Great journal.
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:iconcweeks:
you're welcome, brother!

thanks!
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:icondancingelf:
~dancingelf Oct 3, 2007  Professional Photographer
Love the open diaphragm you use in most of your photos!
Plus, I think I fell in love with little Lola! :love:
Too much love in just one comment =p
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:iconmewmewziq:
really cool post indeed.
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:iconebumps:
!eBumps Oct 1, 2007   Photographer
What a great post. Is it terrible my favorite shot of em` all was that damn dog getting a shave... where is my head today?! Nice work Chris!
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:iconcweeks:
thanks....

and ... it's not terrible. i think that shot's hilarious!

cheers!!!!!
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:iconlucky-loser:
i was able to shoot it, it IS a damn good camera.
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